MARKER GAMES ARE NOT WORKING

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Re: MARKER GAMES ARE NOT WORKING

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I've whipped up a short video of the bug, I hope it helps.
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Cool ... :mrgreen:

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The 2nd part of your video Rock is just a misunderstood from your side.

Once you played a game XYZ, you need to reset the game in order to replay it. So there's no "evidence" of a bug on your game from the video.

I'm guessing your game cannot be played anymore. In my experience, even our games froze and no marker can be taken afterward the initial play thru.

There's a general bug with MOSS/Dirtsand shards with marker games. It might come from the fact that MOUL's marker games are already a fix in themselves. Let me do a small recap of the situation:

The yellow markers were initially the general markers. If you play on URU:CC & create a marker game, they will be yellow (inside KI device). The issue with them is that you cannot get inside them in play mode. There's no way to stand right inside them in play mode. You can reopen the game 1,000 times in a row, it won't change the matter that as soon as you are in the vincinity of that said marker, you take it. That's a major issue. You'll have this issue on alcugs shards like DI or TOC TPoTS for instance.

So Cyan came back with a new series: the brand new purple markers (an "artistic" fix code-wise...).

Those purple markers are the last generation of markers: you can in play mode, reset the quest & stand right where the marker is. I call this a "small edit mode". For skydiving purposes, this is quite a nice feature because you need to be very precise.

Those purple markers are bugged outside MOULa shard. In TOC MOUL they didn't disable them. You can build marker games. When I do so, I don't bother edit & put description in them. I make my marker games just to show where to be & where to go. The player must guess what action have to be done in order to progress. In Gehn shard, they simply disabled them.

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Markers are still a very complicated/special system. Unfortunately, it seems that the MOSS author is not interested in the project anymore, so it's hard to work on it server-side, at the moment.

I know that Hoikas is working on a rewrite of the marker system (for dirtsand/Gehn shard, as those have no support for Marker games at all), in his spare time. Maybe his results will help us to improve it too, but it will take some time and I can't promise anything, right now.

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Annabelle wrote:The 2nd part of your video Rock is just a misunderstood from your side.
Once you played a game XYZ, you need to reset the game in order to replay it. So there's no "evidence" of a bug on your game from the video.
Hi Annabelle! :) Thanks for the comment.

I did reset it, on Sunday. It doesn't show here simply because yesterday I forgot that particular detail when frapsing the video.

Anyway, it seems from what you and Mystler say that the problem is larger than that.

Now that I think of it, we never acutally played marker games here in the OC - we were only using markers in some particular ABF quests, just to mark a spot and send it to a fellow explorer.

Beside of that, once Scarchu and I started a challenge game in a more standard way, but we never finished it.
So, I actually can't assure by my own experience if the marker games have ever worked here as such.
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I have played my own marker games here while exploring Minkata. I would calculate the distance (running time) directly to a Kiva and then run in that direction for the calculated time. I would drop several markers when I stop and then explorer in several different directions leaving a trail of markers so that I could find my way back to the the starting point. I did the same thing in MOULa. It sure makes finding the Kivas easier.

I have not tried it since this discussion started. Perhaps I will try it tomorrow.

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Post by Zesty of Xeniphers »

cool video RockAdemar :) and thank you all for your inputs and comments. marker games are still NOT working though :( i have several and kirk and i have checked them all. no game is working ! no marker can be 'pinged' ! hope that gets sorted soon. we were looking forward to playing several marker games that teach us how to get to some places. [remember, we are new to TOC]
thanks in advance for the effort put in fixing this. whenever it happens :)

VERY IMPORTANT REMINDER: I played Abjabs Minkata marker game just a few days ago. I opened one Relto marker game and - THEY ALL WORKED ! Please remember that. The problem seems to be quite recent. [that was before we started and finished GZ marker games. not sure if the two are connected but trying to give you all the info i can think of]
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Post by AlanD »

I was sent a marker game quite a while ago, several weeks, "xx markers for a quiet night in Relto" (where xx is a number I can't recall) I've opened it up several times and tried to play it but get the same symptoms; I am unable to collect any of the markers.

For me this has been going on for a long time. I've never tried any other marker game in TOC though.

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