The Open Cave

1) Avie Abjab (KI # 2976) seems to have normal access to Nexus (Public) "City Locations" links on initial Load/login (except there is an unidentified line at end of list, next page (GZ Courtyard link should be visible and isn't)). After a second visit (TBV) to Nexus these links are still selectable (turn white), but the Nexus Button won't stand out for use. Public City links, Pubs, Kirel are then inaccessible (Kveer has not been acquired yet). Other lists appear to work OK.

2) Avie Abjab has collected all necessary 30 (of 35 possible) Green/red markers, has Marker making (F8) and playing functions, but is constantly pestered by visible (and uncollectable) Green /Red Markers (not just the Delta +5). After a Server Reset, and a visit to the GZ pod to attempt KI re-registration, a blue message says "A link has been added to your nexus" (It hasnt ). Using /jump into the GZ Courtyard to attempt KI re-registration there, provides no improvements.

3) Avie Abjab found himself in possession (in KI "Incoming" List) of a small Relto marker game which had no named OWNER or KI # (just zero's). It showed fine, but was deleted in quiet desparation, with no improvements to issues above.

4) I have to double check next, but Avie Abjab2 (KI # 4051) seems to have had all of the same problems. It's possible that non-normal Green/red Markers were collected, (I was operating without the benefit of Pillars or any Dry Cleft visit), and Marker collection may have been mixed between COD, Public, Private City; any Bevin etc.

I had hoped that these issues would have vanished, perhaps; but they hav'nt yet , and I suspect the Vault, or my Client..... But the Marker Games created for decoration look Great ! (One of them is rather large )

Many Thanks Mystler; I couldn't find a subject thread quite like this so I posted here...

1) Avie Abjab (KI # 2976) seems to have normal access to Nexus (Public) "City Locations" links on initial Load/login (except there is an unidentified line at end of list, next page (GZ Courtyard link should be visible and isn't)).

I thought this was a "/suitup" problem....It isnt

What happens seems to be this... Normal MOULa does not accommodate the Concert Hall Foyer link; it was disabled there. TOC-Moul enabled the Concert Hall Foyer Link , but my Nexus vault won't accommodate an extra line when full (caution: I havn't done Kveer yet). The Great Zero (Courtyard) link always seems to want to be at the bottom here, so it disappears when full (<8 lines). The problem exists when Great Zero gets shunted from line 8 to line 9, and Line 9 doesnt display (it's blank) and none of the City Locations link will make the Nexus Book Button pop up (enable). Two workarounds present themselves:

1a) If City Locations links Button won't respond in Nexus, click on "Down" triangle to scroll the list, and then all visible links (Ferry Terminal is not visible now..it's always at the top of any list) will now operate; click on any visible link to highlight it to make Button respond, then click on "Up" triangle to make "Ferry Terminal" link appear and Button will remain active and usable for that link.

1b) Delete any deletable City Location link to prevent the situation from developing. (I don't know yet if I must delete two to allow Kveer, Great Zero, and a Guild Pub link to co-exist yet)

None of this fixed item 2)

Hope this helps sometime....

I can't say something about this problem. We have to wait until Mystler is back from holidays.

Abjab wrote:What happens seems to be this... Normal MOULa does not accommodate the Concert Hall Foyer link; it was disabled there. TOC-Moul enabled the Concert Hall Foyer Link

What are you talking about? MOUL has always had the Concert Hall Foyer link, as long as you use the Nexus slot device.

Have you tried to delete a few links in your nexus? I think there was a problem that not all links are shown if you collect to much of them, but I thought this problem was fixed...

The problem is that the Great Zero Link disappears from the Nexus link list

@ Ehren The context is Nexus List links Eheren; Concert Hall Link is'nt collectable on Nexus list in MOULa, but it is in TOC-MOUL. This extra link appears to overfill the TOC-MOUL list if all other links are acquired, and makes the Great Zero link disapear, and otherwise act weirdly (I described an in-game workaround).

@Opa Yes, I did delete the Nexus Concert Hall link and it fixed the problem; and deleting any other single deletable link works just as well to fix the problem. And NO, the problem you stated has NOT been fixed.

@ both all of this is reported after collecting ALL available Nexus list links except the Kveer link (yet); I don't know how that (Kveer link) will affect things when I DO collect it...and in any event, I'm missing my Great Zero link now, as it is....

So far I would advise...Don't collect the Concert Hall Foyer as a Nexus link, or delete it when you do; to reveal a collected but now hidden Great Zero link.

Thanks for the feedback, Hope this helps )

Abjab wrote:@ Ehren The context is Nexus List links Eheren; Concert Hall Link is'nt collectable on Nexus list in MOULa, but it is in TOC-MOUL. This extra link appears to overfill the TOC-MOUL list if all other links are acquired, and makes the Great Zero link disapear, and otherwise act weirdly (I described an in-game workaround).

But that's the problem with what you are saying, the Concert Hall link IS collectable to the Nexus in MOULa. I don't know understand why you think it isn't.

Ehren said:

But that's the problem with what you are saying, the Concert Hall link IS collectable to the Nexus in MOULa. I don't know understand why you think it isn't.

Hmm ..If two people agree, one of them is redundant: If two people disagree..which of them is the odd one ? Dunno...But I went back to MOULa and sent you My KI Pics in there Ehren....5 Abjab avies (one account) all agree: Try to collect the Concert Hall Nexus link and there is no video clip of the left hand KI insertion, and it skips straight to the Nexus Page...and checking the nexus link(s) shows No Concert hall listing, and the list is full without a scroll mark. When I first noticed and found this (early MOULa) I commented around and was advised that the Concert hall Nexus List link had been deleted by Cyan subsequent to Gametap...so I assumed it was the norm, and a way to simplify and save vault space; now I can't be so sure ....Do I have a MOULa Problem ?

For the record...I'm using MOULa copy as baseline in TOC-MOUL per instructions. Strange thing is..I can collect a TOC-MOUL Concert Hall Listing, but with adverse results (GZ listing disappears) as reported above....Can you duplicate those results too ? or Not ? That's the Issue here. Also remember that the GZ link was listed under "Personal" listing on MOULa; In TOC-MOUL it has been relocated to "City" listing.

Thanks for the Feedback..its getting interesting LOL

Great Zero is a personal link in the MOULa nexes, not a city link, our problem is that The G Z doesn't like being listed in the city! In MOULa the Concert Hall link is collectible if you touch the top of the Ki slot instead of the front, I have that problem here sometimes too.

I just added the GZ to the TOC-Links tab.